Interview: Lauren Demir
Photographer: David Franco
Collages: Annie Mcgill
Bantz, from North West London has been an avid listener of Grime for as long as he can remember. His passion for grime has had him travelling all over London from when he was younger, engaging with those involved in the scene. This ultimately lead to him founding the platform New Grime Order, which he explains, ‘Supports actual raw grime. Artists who are still in the background just shelling bars at home, just going crazy and having fun in general.’ His friendly and humorous persona made him popular on twitter which he cleverly used to his advantage when starting the platform. After going to his first set with MTP, he decided to periscope it as it was so live, and thanks to his social media clout it gained plenty of watchers. Realising that he had something viable he recruited his friend Kirks and they recorded different artist freestyles which they would then upload on to twitter with the #NewGrimeOrder. From this he was able to create NewGrimeOrder sets with an array of artists on radio stations such as Radar, Mode and Reprezent. This ended up with Bantz getting his on slot on Reprezent where you can catch him weekly on Sundays 12am-2pm. We caught up with him before his event at Boxpark this Thursday to find out more about him and his movement and what else he has in store.
New Grime Order
I’d ask grime producers to give me a beat I’d want everyone to spit on, be like you man drop a freestyle and I’ll retweet it. I was just retweeting, retweeting and everyone was like whats this new grime order thing going on? Then Rellick on Reprezent was like I want you to come on my show. I spoke on the microphone for the first time I felt like I was talking to people and I was being heard. I listened to it later I thought maybe I could do radio because I enjoyed myself. I carried on doing New Grime Order going on different radios. I did a set at Radar and I brought like 25 mc’s, I got some [mc’s] on radio for the first time. Reprezent was following what I was doing so they spoke to me and said we’re going to be recruiting soon so I sent a video of me. They were like we want you to do a New Grime Order show and gave me Sunday’s 12-2.
This is for me to showcase the people that I’ve been listening to for the past 2 years. Big Zuu doing the joints show. C Cane I’ve known her for a while, we’d roll together to sets, she's plays at fabric and shit. She does grime but she's just multi talented. She's the only one that doesn’t have to do grime that day. Everything is going to be grime, or everyone is giving to be a grime influencer. From 6-9 straight sets Treble clef’s going to be there, big Ghetto Kyote producer Treble Clef.
It’s a craft, you get better every week; you watch your mistakes, the things you say, you don’t want to start repeating stuff. I have bad habits saying, ‘calm’ or ‘obviously’ but if you want to get onto a station thats global you’ve got to be able to speak to everyone. Before I was so anti, but now I can speak to people. I’m still on the come up, I only started last year. I need to push myself to be the best I can because I know if other people are going for these roles I’ve got to be the best. I don’t want people to envy me, I want people to listen and say yeah thats why he’s on it.
Grime is always going to have an underground feel. I want the people younger then me to keep it going, carry on and still spraying bar with their friends. Its supposed to be the voice and anger of the kids, so many youth centres were getting closed , etc. There is a whole new scene coming about with the drill type grime and a lot of people are doing drill because of social media love.Its not grime just because the bpm is matching. Its similar to grime because it started on the streets but it doesn’t have a background of how grime came about.
I’ve been listening to grime since 2005. Grime came about 03/04 but that was the conversion, there wasn’t really a name for it. I missed out on that era. I kind of hate I wasn’t old enough to enjoy it, people were able to go out and watch it. I’m happy I was able to watch it grow to another generation. I’ve never stopped listening to grime. Its crazy, I can’t say I jumped off it for a bit. When Uk rap was popping I was listening to grime and Uk rap.
I understand why he (Skepta) cried when they won the awards, because its mad for grime. They were going for it, going for it, going for it then a couple of people stopped going for it, then they were going for it and going for it. Mandem have seen their friends lose their whole music careers and that stuff. All the people that did stay with grime they did it together.
I’m going to do more then one Boxpark event I definitely know, I’m trying to collaborate with people, just bring more people together. Shades is an up and coming project. Shade's is going to be management in general, we’ve got 5 segments; personalities, media, creatives in general (photographers, videographers, directors) vloggers and the modelling. I want to cover music, I want to cover all of that stuff, but you can’t do everything at once. Shade has to start really slow because I want it to have good skeleton, the strongest foundation.
It’s all about networking and pushing. Say who you are, what you do, what you’re trying to do, make alliances, make connections. So when someone does something that relates to you, use that. You can do your single solo thing, go ahead but someone can’t help you with your single solo thing because thats all you.
If you’re going to build your basis on social media build your basis in real life, because they can know you on social media but they won’t come to your shows. You need a real life following.